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	<title>Comments on: Monday&#8217;s Musings: 2009 Enterprise Software Predictions</title>
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		<title>By: Jnan Dash</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/01/mondays-musings2009-enterprise-software-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jnan Dash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. - IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend - Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.

Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. &#8211; IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend &#8211; Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.</p>
<p>Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/01/mondays-musings2009-enterprise-software-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#039;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#039;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#039;cloud computing&#039; and render it meaningless -- I think we&#039;re there already. Best, Matt

PS: Jnan -- great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#039;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#039;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#039;m not aware of many companies that don&#039;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#8217;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#8217;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#8216;cloud computing&#8217; and render it meaningless &#8212; I think we&#8217;re there already. Best, Matt</p>
<p>PS: Jnan &#8212; great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#8217;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#8217;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#8217;m not aware of many companies that don&#8217;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Ackerman</title>
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		<title>By: Jnan Dash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jnan Dash</dc:creator>
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		<description>Ray,

Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. - IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend - Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.

Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. &#8211; IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend &#8211; Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.</p>
<p>Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/01/mondays-musings2009-enterprise-software-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#039;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#039;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#039;cloud computing&#039; and render it meaningless -- I think we&#039;re there already. Best, Matt

PS: Jnan -- great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#039;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#039;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#039;m not aware of many companies that don&#039;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#8217;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#8217;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#8216;cloud computing&#8217; and render it meaningless &#8212; I think we&#8217;re there already. Best, Matt</p>
<p>PS: Jnan &#8212; great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#8217;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#8217;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#8217;m not aware of many companies that don&#8217;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Ackerman</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/01/mondays-musings2009-enterprise-software-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jnan Dash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. - IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend - Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.

Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. &#8211; IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend &#8211; Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.</p>
<p>Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jnan Dash</dc:creator>
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		<description>Ray,

Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. - IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend - Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.

Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. &#8211; IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend &#8211; Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.</p>
<p>Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/01/mondays-musings2009-enterprise-software-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#039;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#039;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#039;cloud computing&#039; and render it meaningless -- I think we&#039;re there already. Best, Matt

PS: Jnan -- great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#039;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#039;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#039;m not aware of many companies that don&#039;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#8217;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#8217;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#8216;cloud computing&#8217; and render it meaningless &#8212; I think we&#8217;re there already. Best, Matt</p>
<p>PS: Jnan &#8212; great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#8217;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#8217;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#8217;m not aware of many companies that don&#8217;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Ackerman</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/01/mondays-musings2009-enterprise-software-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#039;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#039;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#039;cloud computing&#039; and render it meaningless -- I think we&#039;re there already. Best, Matt

PS: Jnan -- great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#039;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#039;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#039;m not aware of many companies that don&#039;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#8217;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#8217;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#8216;cloud computing&#8217; and render it meaningless &#8212; I think we&#8217;re there already. Best, Matt</p>
<p>PS: Jnan &#8212; great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#8217;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#8217;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#8217;m not aware of many companies that don&#8217;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Jnan Dash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jnan Dash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. - IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend - Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.

Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Given the tough times, boiler plate predictions on SaaS, Cloud, etc. seem pedantic and meaningless. Drastic changes are happening in the industry and buzzword-driven trends are out. Here is my view. &#8211; IT-spending is tight for CIOâ€™s. Since top line growth (revenue) is slow, every one is focusing on bottom line which is cost control. So any solution that reduces cost will be welcome. That brings us to the biggest trend &#8211; Application Modernization. Enterprise clients are stuck in the client-server model of business applications, analytics, etc. for last decade or so. They are blissfully unaware of the great advantages of a web-platform-based delivery, seen in the consumer space. So the transition from client-server to RIA is key for lowering TCO and improving efficiency. At Curl, we have seen over 400 large enterprises deploying B2B and B2E (like procurement, field service management) applications delivered on the web. The cost savings are enormous. The switch to more client-based processing reduces server round-trips (read performance) and cost. Scalability and security are key needs here, so Ajax tyoe solutions fall flat. This is not theory, but actual practice. These customers do not waste time debating buzzwords and technologies. They start with â€œimproving the procurement processâ€ and naturally switched to Curl-based RIA. I predict 2009 will be the year of RIA for the enterprise. A true transition from the old client-server architecture to the modern web-based architecture will take off.</p>
<p>Jnan Dash Chief Strategy officer, Curl Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#039;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#039;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#039;cloud computing&#039; and render it meaningless -- I think we&#039;re there already. Best, Matt

PS: Jnan -- great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#039;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#039;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#039;m not aware of many companies that don&#039;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ray, Interesting post, and I think a lot of those are good points. The one observation/question I&#8217;d have concerns your first end-user prediction. I agree that software licensing discounting will continue but question how much this will influence discounts on the attach of professional services. I think this may be a bit controversial because I think it will only be true for certain business segments (i.e. enterprise/corporate), or for IT buyers who go through direct channels. For the mid-market or anyone really who&#8217;s going through VARs or SIs I think their real leverage would be negotiating even steeper discounts on licensing. Cutting out services attached to software could be pretty disasterous for the indirect players in 2009, since they make next to nothing on the software anyway. Would love to hear if you agree/disagree Finally concerning vendor point 11, we may not have to wait until 2009 for vendors to dilute the term &#8216;cloud computing&#8217; and render it meaningless &#8212; I think we&#8217;re there already. Best, Matt</p>
<p>PS: Jnan &#8212; great plug for your company there, although some of what you&#8217;re saying does sound like a lot of the same arguments I&#8217;ve heard for other webservices/SaaS/app cloud offerings (or I guess RIA in your case). I&#8217;m not aware of many companies that don&#8217;t debate technologies before deploying, and from where I sit the procurement people make sure we have desks and stationary etc. I work in IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Ackerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your assessment except for one area SaaS moving back  to month to month. I&#039;m interested in your justification for this.

Rich Ackerman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment except for one area SaaS moving back  to month to month. I&#8217;m interested in your justification for this.</p>
<p>Rich Ackerman</p>
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