Comments on: Monday’s Musings: Call to Action - Updating The Enterprise Software Licensee’s Bill of Rights http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/ Insider insights into effective enterprise apps strategies, vendor selection, and software contracts Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:27:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: A buy side response to the enterprise buyer’s Bill of Rights (and a partial solution) http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-2262 A buy side response to the enterprise buyer’s Bill of Rights (and a partial solution) Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:13:47 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-2262 [...] burning question is how willing the vendor community will be to act upon these ideas. After Ray wrote the first Bill of Rights, he said: Given the complexity that users faced, experiences from 250 client advisory, inquiries, and face to [...] [...] burning question is how willing the vendor community will be to act upon these ideas. After Ray wrote the first Bill of Rights, he said: Given the complexity that users faced, experiences from 250 client advisory, inquiries, and face to [...]

]]> By: A buy side response to the enterprise buyer's Bill of Rights (and a partial solution) | Irregular Enterprise | ZDNet.com http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-2229 A buy side response to the enterprise buyer's Bill of Rights (and a partial solution) | Irregular Enterprise | ZDNet.com Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:43:43 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-2229 [...] burning question is how willing the vendor community will be to act upon these ideas. After Ray wrote the first Bill of Rights, he said: Given the complexity that users faced, experiences from 250 client advisory, inquiries, and face to [...] [...] burning question is how willing the vendor community will be to act upon these ideas. After Ray wrote the first Bill of Rights, he said: Given the complexity that users faced, experiences from 250 client advisory, inquiries, and face to [...]

]]> By: Agresso Bucks the Slump (and Fights the “ERP Madness”) – Part 1 » The TEC Blog http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-246 Agresso Bucks the Slump (and Fights the “ERP Madness”) – Part 1 » The TEC Blog Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:16:38 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-246 [...] rates Agresso’s licensing and pricing highly in his recent report, which is worth noting, given Ray’s close attention to customers’ bill of rights and reputation when it comes to the issues of [...] [...] rates Agresso’s licensing and pricing highly in his recent report, which is worth noting, given Ray’s close attention to customers’ bill of rights and reputation when it comes to the issues of [...]

]]> By: Edith Rodriguez http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-129 Edith Rodriguez Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:34:53 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-129 Hello Ray, I did provide a post on the Procurement Professional Website, but wanted to send you an e-mail as well. I am very interested to see the official update. You can either e-mail me or send me a hard copy of the final results. With regards to Open Source Software ("OSS") I would like to see definitions for : - Copyleft - Tivoization - Four Freedoms - Viral OSS Additionally...what is the key GPL restriction for OSS. Edith Rodriguez Sourcing Manager Purchasing ARUP Laboratories 500 Chipeta Way Salt Lake City, Ut 84108-1221 Direct: 801-584-5067 Toll Free: 800.242.2787 E-mail: edith.rodriguez@aruplab.com www.arupplab.com Hello Ray,

I did provide a post on the Procurement Professional Website, but wanted to send you an e-mail as well. I am very interested to see the official update. You can either e-mail me or send me a hard copy of the final results.

With regards to Open Source Software (”OSS”) I would like to see definitions for :
- Copyleft
- Tivoization
- Four Freedoms
- Viral OSS

Additionally…what is the key GPL restriction for OSS.

Edith Rodriguez

Sourcing Manager

Purchasing

ARUP Laboratories

500 Chipeta Way

Salt Lake City, Ut 84108-1221

Direct: 801-584-5067

Toll Free: 800.242.2787

E-mail: edith.rodriguez@aruplab.com

http://www.arupplab.com

]]> By: Prakash V http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-126 Prakash V Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:27:58 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-126 Ray, I was able to sell Microsoft office licenses via Used Software in Germany. When you put out the 1st bill of rights, you mentioned that you thought #36 was not possible. It is now! Ray, I was able to sell Microsoft office licenses via Used Software in Germany. When you put out the 1st bill of rights, you mentioned that you thought #36 was not possible. It is now!

]]> By: R "Ray" Wang http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-125 R "Ray" Wang Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:49:09 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-125 Check out Frank Scavo's insights based on Ashok's question. Great point on planning to get out with SaaS before you get in! http://fscavo.blogspot.com/2008/12/saas-plan-to-get-out-before-you-get-in.html Check out Frank Scavo’s insights based on Ashok’s question. Great point on planning to get out with SaaS before you get in!

http://fscavo.blogspot.com/2008/12/saas-plan-to-get-out-before-you-get-in.html

]]> By: Frank Scavo http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-124 Frank Scavo Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:22:02 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-124 Picking up on Ashok's comment, I am concerned about the higher level of vendor lock-in for SaaS providers. There is no option to go "off maintenance" and continue to run the software. Therefore, with SaaS providers that offer an on-premise version (e.g. Oracle On-Demand), there should be conversion terms to transition to the on-premise version. For SaaS providers that do not offer an on-premise deployment option (e.g. Salesforce.com), there needs to be the right to extract all master file and transactional data to an open format (e.g. XML), so as to facilitate conversion to a new SaaS or on-premise solution. Picking up on Ashok’s comment, I am concerned about the higher level of vendor lock-in for SaaS providers. There is no option to go “off maintenance” and continue to run the software. Therefore, with SaaS providers that offer an on-premise version (e.g. Oracle On-Demand), there should be conversion terms to transition to the on-premise version.

For SaaS providers that do not offer an on-premise deployment option (e.g. Salesforce.com), there needs to be the right to extract all master file and transactional data to an open format (e.g. XML), so as to facilitate conversion to a new SaaS or on-premise solution.

]]> By: Andy Bitterer http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Andy Bitterer Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:09:19 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-123 How about product liability in software? Typically excluded. What if licensed "compliance software" is buggy? Whose problem is it? How about product liability in software? Typically excluded. What if licensed “compliance software” is buggy? Whose problem is it?

]]> By: Ashok Gupta http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-128 Ashok Gupta Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:03:07 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-128 With SaaS, we need to have some rules on ownership of data. I'm including metadata, process data, etc. It's useless having just the data with no context. You may want to think about how to address this. BTW, thanks for all your help with my Oracle ELA last year. Appreciate it! - AG With SaaS, we need to have some rules on ownership of data. I’m including metadata, process data, etc. It’s useless having just the data with no context. You may want to think about how to address this. BTW, thanks for all your help with my Oracle ELA last year. Appreciate it! - AG

]]> By: Helena Lee http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2008/12/15/mondays-musings-call-to-action-updating-the-enterprise-software-licensees-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-127 Helena Lee Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:48:11 +0000 http://blog.softwareinsider.org/?p=840#comment-127 Hey Ray! hope all's well. We met at Sapphire 2008 and thanks for your advice. One of the big developments in Germany is the right to buy remarketed software. I think that should be a right as well to be included. You might want to take a look at this market. I'll DM you later. Helena Hey Ray! hope all’s well. We met at Sapphire 2008 and thanks for your advice. One of the big developments in Germany is the right to buy remarketed software. I think that should be a right as well to be included. You might want to take a look at this market. I’ll DM you later.

Helena

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