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Software Insider Index™ (SII): SII Top 30 Enterprise Business Apps Vendors™ & SII Top SaaS Business Apps Vendors™

Now with most of the craziness of Q4 behind us, its time to unveil the Software Insider Indices:

  1. SII Top 30 Enterprise Business Apps Vendors provides a snapshot of an ongoing vendor ranking by revenue.  Some vendors are private and of course not on this list, unless there’s a reasonable estimate.
  2. SII Top 5 SaaS Business Apps Vendors. provides a snapshot of an ongoing vendor ranking by revenue.  Some vendors are private and of course not on this list, unless there’s a reasonable estimate.

So drum roll please…

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Software Insider Index: Top 30 Enterprise Business Apps Vendors™

The 2008 SII® Top 30 Enterprise Business Apps Vendors*

  1. SAP $14,689.9M (€11,567.0M)
  2. Oracle (Apps Revenue Only) $8,418.3M (est.)
  3. Computer Asssociates $3,248M
  4. Amdocs $3,162M
  5. Intuit $3,107M
  6. Infor $2,200M (est.)
  7. Sage Group (oct. fiscal year) $1,893.4M (£1,295.0)
  8. Microsoft Dynamics $1,154.5M (est.)
  9. SalesForce.com $1,076.8M
  10. Lawson $843.2M
  11. Agresso $500.4M (€ 393.5M)
  12. Epicor Software $477.8M
  13. Activant $432M (est.)
  14. JDA Software $390.3M
  15. IFS $383M (SKr 2,500M) (1USD = 6.58 SKr, average quarterly exchange rates)
  16. Exact Software $337.4M (€265.4M)
  17. Manhattan Associates $337.2M
  18. Ariba $337.1M
  19. Deltek $289.4M
  20. QAD $279.4M
  21. i2 $256.9M
  22. Glovia (A Fujitsu Company) $246M (est.)
  23. CDC Software $235M (est.)
  24. IBS Software $229.6M (SKr 2035M)
  25. Concur $220.4M
  26. Cincom $178M (est.)
  27. Taleo $167.7M
  28. NetSuite $152.5M
  29. RightNow $102.6M
  30. SoftBrands $99.7M

The 2008 SII® Top 5 SaaS Business Apps Vendors*

  1. SalesForce.com $1,076.8M
  2. Concur $220.4M
  3. Ultimate Software $178.0M (added 2/26/2009 @ 17:17 GMT)
  4. Taleo $167.7M
  5. NetSuite $152.5M
  6. RightNow $102.6M

Your POV.

Am I missing a vendor?  Feel free to post your comments here or send me an email at rwang0 at gmail dot com .

* Not responsible for any math errors or erroneous revenue information.  Calendar year estimates based on the quarter nearest the calendar year.  Exchange rates as of February 25th, 2009 for vendors who have not published quarterly conversions.  Not responsible for currency flux.  Please read the quarterly filings yourself =)

Changes: March 12, 2009 converted IFS from $279.3 to $383M (SKr 2,500M)  using 1USD = 6.58 SKr, average quarterly exchange rates.  Ranking moved from 21 to 15.

11 comments to Software Insider Index™ (SII): SII Top 30 Enterprise Business Apps Vendors™ & SII Top SaaS Business Apps Vendors™

  • Jim

    I just love that Exact Software on their corporate website lists notes this blog “ranks Exact #15″ presenting the article as some qualitative measurement of Exact’s success.

    They fail to mention this list just ranks product lines by their sales.

    But glad Exact pointed me here so I know other ERP software vendors I can consider for my RFP to replace our current Macola system.

  • R "Ray" Wang

    Hariharan,

    Thanks for the suggestion. WE have also taken out the CAD applications, security like Symantec, etc. Good points.

    Ray

  • Hariharan

    Ray, I wonder if CA should appear in this list since it is more of a IT apps vendor. The only business apps category that it caters to is the Project & Portfolio Management. My guess is the revenue contribution of PPM will just be a fraction of the revenues you had indicated.

  • Vinnie’s comments are right on. While there have been some visible, large ERP consolidations, the software market fragmentation continues, particularly in key verticals. With the $19 billion EMR Software boom upon us, the healthcare software market segment is going to be one of the most interesting to watch.

  • Ray, if you throw in vertical players like SunGard and McKesson and the fast growing SaaS players under $ 100 million it is amazing how fragmented the apps market is…see my note

    http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal_architect/2009/03/the-incredibly-fragmenting-enterprise-application-software-market.html

  • Marshall Leisten

    You need to add Oracle to Top 5 SaaS Business Apps vendors which are several hundred million - both Oracle CRM On Demand and Oracle On Demand hosted apps.

  • R "Ray" Wang

    Jeremiah,

    One could argue that ADP was the first “SaaS” vendor =)

    Ray

  • R "Ray" Wang

    Chris, you make a great point. updating to include Ultimate! Gotta love the real time nature of the blog. still taking suggestions. We could be at at Top 10 soon.

  • Jeremiah Stone

    Where is ADP? Anymore their products are indistinguishable from SaaS with the exception that they probably provide more customer value!

  • You are missing Ultimate Software (Nasdaq: ULTI). 2008 revenues of $178M. The vast majority of revenue coming from SaaS deployment of the HCM suite of products.

  • You’re missing WebEx, owned by Cisco, for sure on the SaaS side of things.

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