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		<title>By: Enterprise headlines and excerpts, 15-31 March 2011</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enterprise headlines and excerpts, 15-31 March 2011</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 20:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] #Salesforce.com Acquires #Radian6 For $316M While this acquisition does not solve the lack of a good analytics platform in Salesforce.com today, a Radian6 acquisition delivers social analytics or socialytics capabilities for Salesforce.com. customers. Social media monitoring delivered by Radian6 provides the first step in the journey to engaging customers in social channels. Advanced users often find they need to couple a sentiment analysis tool such as Clarabridge, Lymbix, SPSS, or Textlytics to improve accuracy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] #Salesforce.com Acquires #Radian6 For $316M While this acquisition does not solve the lack of a good analytics platform in Salesforce.com today, a Radian6 acquisition delivers social analytics or socialytics capabilities for Salesforce.com. customers. Social media monitoring delivered by Radian6 provides the first step in the journey to engaging customers in social channels. Advanced users often find they need to couple a sentiment analysis tool such as Clarabridge, Lymbix, SPSS, or Textlytics to improve accuracy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why those who are enamored of Salesforce are talking nonsense &#124; ZDNet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why those who are enamored of Salesforce are talking nonsense &#124; ZDNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the point, Ray Wang, Constellation Research CEO makes a number of interesting points: Bring social analytics or socialytics to the Salesforce.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the point, Ray Wang, Constellation Research CEO makes a number of interesting points: Bring social analytics or socialytics to the Salesforce.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Pozil</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2011/03/30/news-analysis-salesforce-com-acquires-radian6-for-316m/comment-page-1/#comment-11579</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Pozil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your analysis Ray.  I always enjoy reading your take on acquisitions.  

How can Salesforce.com continue to pay seemingly high multiples for companies like Radian6 and Heroku?

Taking a closer look at the Radian6 deal, they are paying ~186k per customer!  I don&#039;t think Salesforce.com&#039;s business issue is acquiring customers, especially only 1,700 from Radian6.  They acquire 4k to 5k customers every quarter already.  They need to find away to increase profitability and EPS.

In the Heroku deal, they paid a healthy premium for a company that generates a relatively small amount of revenue.  Their strategy here makes sense though, attract developers to build on your platform(s), distribute their applications through multiple channels (AppExchange, direct, partners, etc.), and earn high margin OEM / ISV subscription fees.  The question is how long will it take to start earning an ROI on the Heroku acquisition?

Also, how sustainable are Radian6 and its competitor&#039;s revenue streams?  There are new players coming into the broadly defined Social CRM market with relative ease and the larger CRM players will start to offer more social media, listening engine, sentiment, and data filtering capabilities with their solutions.

I read through a handful of tweets on the Radian6 acquisition and noticed some responses from Salesforce.com customers who want them to focus more on improving existing CRM features, such as analytics, marketing automation, and workflow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your analysis Ray.  I always enjoy reading your take on acquisitions.  </p>
<p>How can Salesforce.com continue to pay seemingly high multiples for companies like Radian6 and Heroku?</p>
<p>Taking a closer look at the Radian6 deal, they are paying ~186k per customer!  I don&#8217;t think Salesforce.com&#8217;s business issue is acquiring customers, especially only 1,700 from Radian6.  They acquire 4k to 5k customers every quarter already.  They need to find away to increase profitability and EPS.</p>
<p>In the Heroku deal, they paid a healthy premium for a company that generates a relatively small amount of revenue.  Their strategy here makes sense though, attract developers to build on your platform(s), distribute their applications through multiple channels (AppExchange, direct, partners, etc.), and earn high margin OEM / ISV subscription fees.  The question is how long will it take to start earning an ROI on the Heroku acquisition?</p>
<p>Also, how sustainable are Radian6 and its competitor&#8217;s revenue streams?  There are new players coming into the broadly defined Social CRM market with relative ease and the larger CRM players will start to offer more social media, listening engine, sentiment, and data filtering capabilities with their solutions.</p>
<p>I read through a handful of tweets on the Radian6 acquisition and noticed some responses from Salesforce.com customers who want them to focus more on improving existing CRM features, such as analytics, marketing automation, and workflow.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray, thanks for the post!

Clearly consumers don&#039;t particularly want a social relationship with a brand or an organisation - what they want are the BENEFITS that such a relationship might bring them.

Being able to apply brand/customer/competitor and partner social research using tools like Radian6 will provide salesforce customers the ability to better strategize/engage their customers and partners alike.

Keep those POV&#039;s coming! Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, thanks for the post!</p>
<p>Clearly consumers don&#8217;t particularly want a social relationship with a brand or an organisation &#8211; what they want are the BENEFITS that such a relationship might bring them.</p>
<p>Being able to apply brand/customer/competitor and partner social research using tools like Radian6 will provide salesforce customers the ability to better strategize/engage their customers and partners alike.</p>
<p>Keep those POV&#8217;s coming! Michael</p>
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		<title>By: everything seems &#8220;interesting&#8221; today&#8230; &#124; // john whipple</title>
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		<dc:creator>everything seems &#8220;interesting&#8221; today&#8230; &#124; // john whipple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Radian6 acquired by Salesforce.com, will be interesting to see what comes out of this -  really cool take [...]</description>
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		<title>By: R "Ray" Wang</title>
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		<dc:creator>R "Ray" Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umbreto - good points on innovation.  SFDC is starting to slow down on innovations and becoming a fast follower. A natural sign of software vendor maturity.  A good post o read is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zdnet.com/blog/crm/salesforce-to-acquire-radian6-the-uber-moves-continue/2873&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul Greenberg&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; on culture. There will be a culture clash. Let&#039;s see if they can keep Radian6&#039;s innovative startup environment w/o the politics of a large firm. - Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umbreto &#8211; good points on innovation.  SFDC is starting to slow down on innovations and becoming a fast follower. A natural sign of software vendor maturity.  A good post o read is <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/blog/crm/salesforce-to-acquire-radian6-the-uber-moves-continue/2873" rel="nofollow">Paul Greenberg&#8217;s</a> on culture. There will be a culture clash. Let&#8217;s see if they can keep Radian6&#8242;s innovative startup environment w/o the politics of a large firm. &#8211; Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Umberto Milletti</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2011/03/30/news-analysis-salesforce-com-acquires-radian6-for-316m/comment-page-1/#comment-11525</link>
		<dc:creator>Umberto Milletti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

I&#039;m not sure SFDC was ever a product innovator. Besides chatter (which some would argue is a yammer replica), I can&#039;t think of any recent innovations (and even the original product was a easier/cheaper riff on existing SFA).
I think their strength is in market vision and thought leadership, less so in product innovation.
I think the recent acquisitions are an attempt to bring more product innovation in-house, and both Heroku and Radian6 clearly showed a knack for creativity.

I think an interesting question is whether Salesforce.com will keep a vibrant ecosystem, where third parties have a fair opportunity to bring innovation to Salesforce.com customers even in areas where Salesforce.com has its own offering. If the AppExchange promise remains alive, Salesforce.com customers will continue to have alternatives in case Salesforce.com isn&#039;t able to keep the social media monitoring innovation alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure SFDC was ever a product innovator. Besides chatter (which some would argue is a yammer replica), I can&#8217;t think of any recent innovations (and even the original product was a easier/cheaper riff on existing SFA).<br />
I think their strength is in market vision and thought leadership, less so in product innovation.<br />
I think the recent acquisitions are an attempt to bring more product innovation in-house, and both Heroku and Radian6 clearly showed a knack for creativity.</p>
<p>I think an interesting question is whether Salesforce.com will keep a vibrant ecosystem, where third parties have a fair opportunity to bring innovation to Salesforce.com customers even in areas where Salesforce.com has its own offering. If the AppExchange promise remains alive, Salesforce.com customers will continue to have alternatives in case Salesforce.com isn&#8217;t able to keep the social media monitoring innovation alive.</p>
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		<title>By: R "Ray" Wang</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2011/03/30/news-analysis-salesforce-com-acquires-radian6-for-316m/comment-page-1/#comment-11524</link>
		<dc:creator>R "Ray" Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive - Appreciate the loyal following and compliiment.  The question I pose out to readers &quot; Do all these acquisitions mean SFDC no longer knows how to innovate on its own?&quot;  - Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive &#8211; Appreciate the loyal following and compliiment.  The question I pose out to readers &#8221; Do all these acquisitions mean SFDC no longer knows how to innovate on its own?&#8221;  &#8211; Ray</p>
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		<title>By: R "Ray" Wang</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2011/03/30/news-analysis-salesforce-com-acquires-radian6-for-316m/comment-page-1/#comment-11523</link>
		<dc:creator>R "Ray" Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene - Marc&#039;s betting the farm on this.  Let&#039;s hope he can integrate the cultures as these companies are all very different and SFDC is really a younger version of an urbanite Oracle when it comes to internal culture. What do others think? - Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene &#8211; Marc&#8217;s betting the farm on this.  Let&#8217;s hope he can integrate the cultures as these companies are all very different and SFDC is really a younger version of an urbanite Oracle when it comes to internal culture. What do others think? &#8211; Ray</p>
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		<title>By: clive boulton</title>
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		<dc:creator>clive boulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. Brilliant analysis. (Ray &amp; Co are cutting edge on enterprise consumerization) 

Building a Bridge from Chatter to the public social networks looks easy, but bridging the closed enterprise security model with the public model is where the rubber meets the road. 

Evolving the security model space, to allow consumer internet scale, will be SFDC&#039;s golden egg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Brilliant analysis. (Ray &amp; Co are cutting edge on enterprise consumerization) </p>
<p>Building a Bridge from Chatter to the public social networks looks easy, but bridging the closed enterprise security model with the public model is where the rubber meets the road. </p>
<p>Evolving the security model space, to allow consumer internet scale, will be SFDC&#8217;s golden egg.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Liu</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2011/03/30/news-analysis-salesforce-com-acquires-radian6-for-316m/comment-page-1/#comment-11520</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically this acquisition seems sound. But financially, with SFDC spending 50% of its cash assets with this buy and starting the year in negative cash flow, I think SFDC is making a big bet here. It&#039;s clear that SFDC&#039;s growth strategy is through acquisitions. Dimdim for $22M cash, Heroku for $212M cash, now Radian6 for $256M cash (+$50M in stocks). It&#039;ll definitely be interesting to see how SFDC handle the influx of new customers, new employees, and new technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically this acquisition seems sound. But financially, with SFDC spending 50% of its cash assets with this buy and starting the year in negative cash flow, I think SFDC is making a big bet here. It&#8217;s clear that SFDC&#8217;s growth strategy is through acquisitions. Dimdim for $22M cash, Heroku for $212M cash, now Radian6 for $256M cash (+$50M in stocks). It&#8217;ll definitely be interesting to see how SFDC handle the influx of new customers, new employees, and new technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Salesforce.com Acquires Radian6: Are Businesses Ready for the Social Data Firehouse? &#124; JetLib News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salesforce.com Acquires Radian6: Are Businesses Ready for the Social Data Firehouse? &#124; JetLib News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] their brand is being discussed in the social media ecosystem. According to Constellation Research principal analyst and CEO R &#8220;Ray&#8221; Wang, &#8220;Most customers utilize Radian6 for brand management and monitoring, sales and lead [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] their brand is being discussed in the social media ecosystem. According to Constellation Research principal analyst and CEO R &#8220;Ray&#8221; Wang, &#8220;Most customers utilize Radian6 for brand management and monitoring, sales and lead [...]</p>
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		<title>By: R "Ray" Wang</title>
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		<dc:creator>R "Ray" Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, thanks for the comments. looking forward to more details at Social 2011 - Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren, thanks for the comments. looking forward to more details at Social 2011 &#8211; Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Vargas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant initial analysis, Ray. You are spot on about there still being a lot of questions alongside opportunity. As we learn more, we will keep the community informed. Nothing has changed about our engagement strategy. We are gathering feedback and will respond. Thank you for giving some great pointers and asking the tough questions. It is because of folks like you, that we are able to push forward in this space. Thank you.

Lauren Vargas
Director of Community at Radian6
@VargasL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant initial analysis, Ray. You are spot on about there still being a lot of questions alongside opportunity. As we learn more, we will keep the community informed. Nothing has changed about our engagement strategy. We are gathering feedback and will respond. Thank you for giving some great pointers and asking the tough questions. It is because of folks like you, that we are able to push forward in this space. Thank you.</p>
<p>Lauren Vargas<br />
Director of Community at Radian6<br />
@VargasL</p>
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