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	<title>Comments on: Quips: The Slide Some Vendors Won&#8217;t Let Me Show On Social Media Tools</title>
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		<title>By: R "Ray" Wang</title>
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		<dc:creator>R "Ray" Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony

WE will do so next time in Australia!  Thanks for your comments!

Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony</p>
<p>WE will do so next time in Australia!  Thanks for your comments!</p>
<p>Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hollingsworth</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2012/01/16/quips-the-slide-some-vendors-wont-let-me-show-on-social-media-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-17392</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hollingsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ray

As always, #loveyorwork :-)

Here in Australia simply change the word to &quot;wee&quot; and Australians will love this. 

Tailoring the message to your audience is always vital for credibility, which you&#039;ve demonstrated here by consulting the community for their opinions. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ray</p>
<p>As always, #loveyorwork <img src='http://blog.softwareinsider.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Here in Australia simply change the word to &#8220;wee&#8221; and Australians will love this. </p>
<p>Tailoring the message to your audience is always vital for credibility, which you&#8217;ve demonstrated here by consulting the community for their opinions. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: R "Ray" Wang</title>
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		<dc:creator>R "Ray" Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - how&#039;d it go?  Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; how&#8217;d it go?  Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Levine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having that exact debate with myself on using the &quot;social media as pee&quot; slide in a presentation I&#039;m doing tomorrow night for a group of physicians. I&#039;m going to do it, and here&#039;s why.

Pee itself is not an offensive word. If it were, it wouldn&#039;t be one of the first words we teach our children and it wouldn&#039;t be one of the most-used words in conversations with our children for the first few years of their lives.

For this audience, I figure they deal with bodily fluids and bodily functions all day, every day. (But maybe I should change &quot;pee&quot; to &quot;urinate.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having that exact debate with myself on using the &#8220;social media as pee&#8221; slide in a presentation I&#8217;m doing tomorrow night for a group of physicians. I&#8217;m going to do it, and here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>Pee itself is not an offensive word. If it were, it wouldn&#8217;t be one of the first words we teach our children and it wouldn&#8217;t be one of the most-used words in conversations with our children for the first few years of their lives.</p>
<p>For this audience, I figure they deal with bodily fluids and bodily functions all day, every day. (But maybe I should change &#8220;pee&#8221; to &#8220;urinate.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Griffiths</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray - it&#039;s a matter of culture/geography.
I remember from my days at JDE when we could say things in Europe that we couldn&#039;t say in the US. 
If you used the slide in SA, it wouldn&#039;t be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8211; it&#8217;s a matter of culture/geography.<br />
I remember from my days at JDE when we could say things in Europe that we couldn&#8217;t say in the US.<br />
If you used the slide in SA, it wouldn&#8217;t be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry Lowry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry Lowry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 05:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I&#039;ve known you since I&#039;ve known social media as a set of tools, strategies, and a terrific way to build lasting friendships. You are intelligent, well-read, progressive, and thoughtful.

That said, I&#039;m mystified about why taking this route in, out and around &quot;pee&quot; has appeal for you in the first place. I&#039;ve always known you to want to communicate -- and to do that well. I think you often take the high road in doing that vs...well, the &quot;not that.&quot;

So -- with all your ingenuity and your demonstrated, world-wide commitment to elevate social media to an art form, is this your best vehicle to forward the understanding of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I&#8217;ve known you since I&#8217;ve known social media as a set of tools, strategies, and a terrific way to build lasting friendships. You are intelligent, well-read, progressive, and thoughtful.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m mystified about why taking this route in, out and around &#8220;pee&#8221; has appeal for you in the first place. I&#8217;ve always known you to want to communicate &#8212; and to do that well. I think you often take the high road in doing that vs&#8230;well, the &#8220;not that.&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8212; with all your ingenuity and your demonstrated, world-wide commitment to elevate social media to an art form, is this your best vehicle to forward the understanding of it?</p>
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		<title>By: R "Ray" Wang</title>
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		<dc:creator>R "Ray" Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marshall - once again very insightful.  Appreciate the time and input! - Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marshall &#8211; once again very insightful.  Appreciate the time and input! &#8211; Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall Kirkpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be inappropriate if in a formal business environment but I would argue against characterizing it as politically incorrect.  From Wikipedia: &quot;Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, certain other religions, beliefs or ideologies, disability, and age-related contexts, and, as purported by the term, doing so to an excessive extent.&quot;  

The first of those could be applicable, your slide causes institutional offense in an occupational context, but I would argue that the other types of offense are more important to consider with regards to the phrase political correctness.  Wikipedia goes on to say that the phrase is primarily used as a pejorative today, but I would argue that it is only Occupational Offense where that might be appropriate.  All the other contexts listed speak to situations where something is politically incorrect because it is offensive to the (generally) least powerful people in society: people with disabilities, queer people, ethnic or racial minorities.  In those contexts, it is clearly unjust and wrong to be Politically Incorrect, I would argue.  

It is only when tweaking the noses of propriety in an occupational context that Political Correctness takes the form of bottom-up offensiveness, rather than top down re-enforcement of social injustices.  

Therefor I think it&#039;s best to kick the occupational context out of the definition of Political Correctness, to instead understand occupational offense as subversiveness, and save the phrase Politically Incorrect for its original intention: defense against injustice of marginalized people.  

Ok, after all that I gotta run and go pee now ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be inappropriate if in a formal business environment but I would argue against characterizing it as politically incorrect.  From Wikipedia: &#8220;Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, certain other religions, beliefs or ideologies, disability, and age-related contexts, and, as purported by the term, doing so to an excessive extent.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The first of those could be applicable, your slide causes institutional offense in an occupational context, but I would argue that the other types of offense are more important to consider with regards to the phrase political correctness.  Wikipedia goes on to say that the phrase is primarily used as a pejorative today, but I would argue that it is only Occupational Offense where that might be appropriate.  All the other contexts listed speak to situations where something is politically incorrect because it is offensive to the (generally) least powerful people in society: people with disabilities, queer people, ethnic or racial minorities.  In those contexts, it is clearly unjust and wrong to be Politically Incorrect, I would argue.  </p>
<p>It is only when tweaking the noses of propriety in an occupational context that Political Correctness takes the form of bottom-up offensiveness, rather than top down re-enforcement of social injustices.  </p>
<p>Therefor I think it&#8217;s best to kick the occupational context out of the definition of Political Correctness, to instead understand occupational offense as subversiveness, and save the phrase Politically Incorrect for its original intention: defense against injustice of marginalized people.  </p>
<p>Ok, after all that I gotta run and go pee now <img src='http://blog.softwareinsider.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: R "Ray" Wang</title>
		<link>http://blog.softwareinsider.org/2012/01/16/quips-the-slide-some-vendors-wont-let-me-show-on-social-media-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-16390</link>
		<dc:creator>R "Ray" Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred - thanks. that&#039;s hillarious =)  - Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred &#8211; thanks. that&#8217;s hillarious =)  &#8211; Ray</p>
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		<title>By: FredO</title>
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		<dc:creator>FredO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray - as always with social it&#039;s all about context - so here&#039;s a way to use the slide -


For a five  year old - here&#039;s a primer on how to use Social Media today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8211; as always with social it&#8217;s all about context &#8211; so here&#8217;s a way to use the slide -</p>
<p>For a five  year old &#8211; here&#8217;s a primer on how to use Social Media today.</p>
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